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【导演糖】【队3评论音轨节选】你这么爱这个人,我要让你失去他

    
   
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————————关于巴基—————————

 


  开头洗脑的一幕:

※他经历了许多不幸,而这只是众多不幸之一 ——— 他被关押的地方,他是如何被对待的

 [Hes been through hard times, and this is just a little taste of how it sucked, how he was treated, the facility he was kept in.]

※红本子:一开始是想用更能联系到美队2洗脑机的东西,所以之前构思过用一个“脑控盔”之类的东西。后来才决定用小红本。

※脑控词的选择: 选词是根据俄语里他们的发音以及英文的意义想要选择发音听起来就很强硬的,而意义又会引人深思的词。


安全屋:

概念就是Bucky在躲藏。他居住在很临时的公寓里。他知道怎么从这栋楼里逃跑,他在脑海里想过无数次逃跑路线。他在地板下面藏了逃跑时用的书包。他知道如果他们从楼梯来的话他可以从这里跑走,如果他们从楼顶来的话他可以从那里跑走。他的窗户上都是报纸,为的就是不让他们从外面看到里面。他知道这一天会来,这就是为什么他脱下手套然后说:“总是要打起来的。”他内心已经做好了准备。

这个楼一共12层,他知道如果他可以到8楼的话,他就可以跳到另一栋楼上。这就是为什么在开始打架时他把书包扔出窗外,他明确的知道自己该去哪里。他知道他需要跑到隧道。他已经想好了所有退路,但是他没有预料到黑豹的出现。

[Concept is that Bucky is in hiding, he’s in very temporary housing, he knows how to escape from this building, he thought through it a thousand times. He keeps a go bag in the floor. He knows if they came through the stairwell he can go this way, if they came through the roof he can go that way, there’s a reason there’s newspaper on the windows so they can’t see him inside. He knew this time would come, that’s why when he took the gloves off he said ‘it always ends in a fight’, he’s prepared emotionally. 

He knows if he can get to the 8th floor of this 12 floor building, he can jump to the other building. That’s why in the beginning of the fight he threw his backpack out the window, he knew exactly where to go. He knows he needs to get to the Tunnel. He’s thought through all of this. What he didn’t plan on was BP. ]


Bucky的性格

Bucky在这部电影里经历了至少3种不同的性格。第一个Bucky是电影一开始,安全屋里的Bucky。他不是完全清楚自己的过去,他有些迷茫,他在努力记起自己曾经是谁,在拼凑发生过的事。第二个Bucky是被Zemo洗脑成冬兵模式的Bucky。第三个Bucky是洗脑醒来之后的他。比起安全屋时,他想起了更多的事。

[Another hard thing: tracking Bucky’s conscious in this movie. He’s at least 3 different people in this movie. 1st Bucky who is not fully aware of his past, but somewhere stranded, remembering what he’s done, remembering who he originally was, trying to put it all together, fully powered. 2nd Bucky: terminator Bucky once Zemo turns him back into Winter Soldier. 3rd Bucky: moral wide Bucky after he wakes up from the brainwash. He remembers more than he remembers in the first scene. ]

———————关于队长&巴基—————————

Steve已经拒绝了法案,所以如果没有Bucky的话电影是无法继续下去的了,因为不会有冲突。Steve需要有感情投入,而没有人有比Bucky Barnes更能让Steve有感情投入了。

[Steve would have to be invested, and there’s no greater investment than Bucky Barnes]

这一幕:

冬兵在盾牌后面,我们1944年也会这么拍。这就是一个能体现他们的友谊和联结。他们一起合作。这是肌肉的记忆。

[Winter soldier behind the shield, this is how we would’ve done it in 1944. Just a play on their friendship and the connection these guys have. They operate as a unit. There’s muscle memory]

———————关于2V1————————

※为了让Tony能在第三幕对Bucky真的有杀意,我们需要让他在感情上不稳定。我们用不同的方式去表现Tony Stark,他的道德感和他的自恋相互冲突,而他这次选择为政府放弃自己的自大。他应该为奥创事件负责。你不能一直无视类似奥创的这些事。如果他不从自己的错误中学习的话,我们就不会再对他感兴趣了。(鹰眼在监狱里呛Tony)是他应得的。他这个角色有趣的就是他的缺点,但是如果你和他交往,或如果你是他的朋友或者同事,这就会让你抓狂。他这次不能再不为自己的行动负责了。

[In order for Tony in the 3rd act to actually want to kill Bucky, we need to make him emotionally vulnerable. Take a very different approach to Tony Stark, make him off-balance and emotionally vulnerable, his moral center and his narcissism is coming into conflict with each other, and he has to make a choice to submit his ego to the government. You can’t blow off things like Ultron. If he doesn’t learn from his mistakes, we will eventually get sick of him. [Hawkeye calling out Tony] was all deserved. What’s so fun about this character is his flaws, but if you’re in a relationship with Tony Stark, if he’s a friend or a co-worker of yours, it would certainly be something that would irritate you. Yes, and he certainly should not be let off the hook time and time again.]

Tony真的想亲手杀死Bucky,他想听他承认他做过的事情,并让他为此受折磨。同时,他伤害Bucky也是为了伤害Steve。你这么爱这个人?我要让你失去他。”

[Tony really wants to murder Bucky with his own hands, he wanted to hear him admit that he did it and make him suffer. He also wants to hurt Bucky to hurt Steve, at this point. “You love this thing so much? I’m going to take this away from you.” ]

※有一瞬间我们想让你相信盾会切到Tony的脸上,但是队长不是那种人。无论他怎样失控,他其实最终目的只是为了让打斗结束。如果你回去看一整幕的话你就会发现这是队长做一切事的目的。他所做的一切都是为了停止打斗。

[There’s one second that will make you believe the shield will cut off Tony’s face, but Cap is not that kind of person. Cap is the kind of person, no matter how much he loses control, at the end of the day, it’s purely trying to end the fight. If you look back at the sequence, that’s about everything that Cap does. Every move that he makes is to disable. ]

这是唯一一次Steve Rogers故意隐瞒实情,因为他的直接告诉他这就会是最终的结果。Steve有意的盲点就是Bucky。”我不想去考虑他也许真的做了这件事。”

[The one time Steve Rogers knowingly withholds the truth is because his gut told him this would be the end result. Steve does have a willful blindspot for Bucky “I don’t want to look at the fact that he probably did this”]

————————关于写信—————————

这就是队长的性格。他就是这样的人,无论事情有多糟糕,错误有多大,他都会承认自己的参与。他很能控制自己的感情,并不让感性超过理性。他不是在为自己支持Bucky而道歉。他是在为自己隐瞒信息道歉,这个区分很明确。这不代表他们两个人和好了。这只是队长在做自己。

[He’s not apologizing for backing Bucky, he’s apologizing for withholding that information, it was very specific. It does not imply repair between these characters. It’s purely Cap being Cap, stating his culpability in the situation. }

※美队2之后,在决定美队3的剧本但是还没有考虑到内战时,美队3最重要的线就是寻找Bucky。有考虑过有人想要逼Bucky不再躲藏(这个确实在美队3里也出现了),然后第三幕是操纵股市和钱有关。也考虑过Mad-bomb(把人变成僵尸)。

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※导演和编剧笑着说很期待CE穿Nomad制服,还说CE刚刚已经去试衣服了,制服胸前的开口已经开到了肚脐以下。

感谢听译的小天使小聆katielingbff


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